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i spoke to mark kelly yesterday about his testimony. he said that we're both -- he and congresswoman giffords, are moderate gun owners. they own guns. they have been supporters of gun rights for a long time. he also said that he hopes that they can do something about the safety of our kids and our communities. one tidbit he told me is that he and gabby giffords used to go together to the nra practice range just outside of washington. he almost joined the nra himself but never got around to it. that's their perspective. and then of course on the other side of the witness table the last person we will hear from will be wayne lapierre who will say a lot of familiar things that we've heard from him over the years but even more specifically since the shootings at newtown he's going to say in fact his prepared remarks say that he's going to say law abiding gun owners will not accept the blame for acts of violence of deranged criminals. expect him to be as combative and defiant for people who own guns as he has in the past. >> i'm sitting here
i spoke to mark kelly yesterday about his testimony. he said that we're both -- he and congresswoman giffords, are moderate gun owners. they own guns. they have been supporters of gun rights for a long time. he also said that he hopes that they can do something about the safety of our kids and our communities. one tidbit he told me is that he and gabby giffords used to go together to the nra practice range just outside of washington. he almost joined the nra himself but never got around to it....
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americans are counting on you. >> giffords' husband, mark kelly, also testified. so did nra head juan wayne la p and also the chief of baltimore county, the chairman of the national law enforcement partnership to prevent gun violence. he joins us right now. chief, you are really on the front lines of this gun debate so i want to ask you, if you could get one thing, change one thing when it comes to guns and gun violence, what's the one measure you would choose? >> well, it's definitely going to be a universal background check. i think most in law enforcement would agree that a universal background check certainly would make it more difficult for people who are trying to get weapons, keep them out of their hands. in fact from 1994 to 2009, nearly two million prohibited purchases were stopped. so we know this is going to work. obviously increasing penalties for those who try to straw purchase for someone else, i really think this will have a tremendous impact. >> so wayne la pierre of the nra doesn't agree with you. at the hearing yesterday he said that criminals wi
americans are counting on you. >> giffords' husband, mark kelly, also testified. so did nra head juan wayne la p and also the chief of baltimore county, the chairman of the national law enforcement partnership to prevent gun violence. he joins us right now. chief, you are really on the front lines of this gun debate so i want to ask you, if you could get one thing, change one thing when it comes to guns and gun violence, what's the one measure you would choose? >> well, it's...
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that coming from mark kelly. and you can only imagine what he is feeling, what his wife gabby giffords is feeling, when they look at that and hear information about yet another shooting taking place in arizona. just unbelievable. coming on a day when people are talking about guns, gun rights, the debate continues. a lot of emotion behind this deba debate, a lot of different ideas about policy initiatives and what is the appropriate thing to do and how to protect people's guns' rights at the same time how to proteevent something lik this from happening again. it happened again in phoenix, arizona. we'll take a quick break. understand my charts, and spend more time trading. their quick trade bar lets my account follow me online so i can react in real-time. plus, my local scottrade office is there to help. because they know i don't trade like everybody. i trade like me. i'm with scottrade. (announcer) scottrade. voted "best investment services company." until i got a job in the big apple. becoming a fulltime indoor
that coming from mark kelly. and you can only imagine what he is feeling, what his wife gabby giffords is feeling, when they look at that and hear information about yet another shooting taking place in arizona. just unbelievable. coming on a day when people are talking about guns, gun rights, the debate continues. a lot of emotion behind this deba debate, a lot of different ideas about policy initiatives and what is the appropriate thing to do and how to protect people's guns' rights at the...
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kelly, founded. he also testified along with the national rifle association's wayne lapierre. commander kelly at one point answered mr. lapierre's claim that background checks don't need to be made universal. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> the nra position, though, and it's shared by many people, is that criminals would still be able to get and use firearms and banning high-capacity rifles still would not work. and banning the semiautomatic weapons, such as the ones used in newtown, aurora and elsewhere. both sides of the gun debate use the assault weapons ban that was in effect from 1994 to 2004 to make their case. listen. >> independent studies including one from the clinton justice department prove that it had no impact on lowering crime. >> the department of justice report assault weapons as a percentage of gun traces, we chose the 70% decline. >> while armed security works, gun bans do not. >> i ha
kelly, founded. he also testified along with the national rifle association's wayne lapierre. commander kelly at one point answered mr. lapierre's claim that background checks don't need to be made universal. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> the nra position, though, and it's shared by many people, is that criminals would still be able to get and use firearms and banning high-capacity...
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see him there in the middle of the -- that's mark kelly, but he's there as well. there he is in the glasses. shaking hands with mark kelly, lapierre, pretty much against everything on the table, regarding gun control, including those universal background checks, that's been proposed. listen to wayne lapierre's exchange with senator patrick leahy, the chairman of the judiciary committee. >> talking about gun shows. should we have mandatory background checks at gun shows? for sales of weapons? >> if you're a dealer, that's already the law. if you're -- >> that's not my question. please, mr. lapierre, i'm not trying to play games here. but if you could, just answer my question. >> i do not believe the way the law is working now, unfortunately, that it does any good to extend the law to private sales between hobbyists and collectors. >> so you do not support mandatory background checks in all instances at gun shows? >> we do not because the fact is the law now is a failure the way it is working. >> joe johns, let me bring you in here for me in washington. we have been
see him there in the middle of the -- that's mark kelly, but he's there as well. there he is in the glasses. shaking hands with mark kelly, lapierre, pretty much against everything on the table, regarding gun control, including those universal background checks, that's been proposed. listen to wayne lapierre's exchange with senator patrick leahy, the chairman of the judiciary committee. >> talking about gun shows. should we have mandatory background checks at gun shows? for sales of...
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kelly talking about how there needs to be gun restrictions. kelly talking about how he is a gun owner. he and gabrielle giffords are both gun owners and believe in the second amendment and right to bear arms but there needs to be a conversation about gun violence. he talked about the need for better background checks in this country and eliminating restrictions on data. i want to bring in our chief congressional correspondent dana bash who is in the hearing room. one of the things we heard about a few minutes ago was about going after straw purchasers. could you explain to our viewers what exactly are straw purchasers and this is an area of legislation where there might be some accomplishment? >> reporter: if you listen to the line of questioning that the chairman patrick leahy is going through, you sort of see kind of the wheels churning and the outlines of potential legislation that he might be thinking it. it's all focused on background checks and making sure that guns are not in the hands of the wrong people. he talks about straw purchaser
kelly talking about how there needs to be gun restrictions. kelly talking about how he is a gun owner. he and gabrielle giffords are both gun owners and believe in the second amendment and right to bear arms but there needs to be a conversation about gun violence. he talked about the need for better background checks in this country and eliminating restrictions on data. i want to bring in our chief congressional correspondent dana bash who is in the hearing room. one of the things we heard...
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>> those people need to be in the system. >> are you and mark kelly on the same side of this issue? >> on the question of putting the mentally ill in the system, absolutely. >> we've got to go, but "the daily caller" has an interview with you, where you are quoted as saying that there have been threats made against your son and daughter in the wake of the deadly shooting in newtown. >> sure, against me and against wayne lapierre. >> what kind of threats? >> my son has the same name as i have and he has a facebook page, and somebody said that she should be killed. and he and my daughter responded -- i'm not a technical guy, so i'm not the guy to do this, and said that, actually, i'm not him, i'm his son, but both my sister and i agree that he's not that bad a guy and you probably shouldn't kill him. and they came back and said, well, since we know you're his children, we ought to kill you since he knows what it will feel like. >> i assume you've notified local police? >> we turn that stuff over, but what that's an example of not that somebody's going to kill me, because that's probab
>> those people need to be in the system. >> are you and mark kelly on the same side of this issue? >> on the question of putting the mentally ill in the system, absolutely. >> we've got to go, but "the daily caller" has an interview with you, where you are quoted as saying that there have been threats made against your son and daughter in the wake of the deadly shooting in newtown. >> sure, against me and against wayne lapierre. >> what kind of...
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. >> giffords' husband, mark kelly also spoke along with the nra's wayne lapierre. tonight anderson cooper is looking at both sides of the debate in "guns under fire" this is an "ac360" town hall special tonight at 8:00 on cnn, it's going to be really interesting. as they debated gun control in washington another shooting was unfolding. arizona police are searching for the 70-year-old man they say is responsible for a deadly shooting in phoenix. the suspect, arthur douglas harmon was attending a meeting at a law office when he allegedly opened fire. 48 man was killed, two others wounded in the attack. harmon took off in a 2013 kia optima. police say he opened fire on a witness who tried to follow him. >>> hackers invading the "new york times" have finally been blocked at least for now. this is an amazing story. these hackers out of china have been attacking "the times" over the past four months, infiltrating their computer systems and stealing passwords. the papers say the timing of the attack related or not happens to coincide with their investigative report that r
. >> giffords' husband, mark kelly also spoke along with the nra's wayne lapierre. tonight anderson cooper is looking at both sides of the debate in "guns under fire" this is an "ac360" town hall special tonight at 8:00 on cnn, it's going to be really interesting. as they debated gun control in washington another shooting was unfolding. arizona police are searching for the 70-year-old man they say is responsible for a deadly shooting in phoenix. the suspect, arthur...
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. >>> and mark kelly is retiring and helped to protect five presidents. he has been secret reservice director for ten years. his resignation comes after a scandal involving agents and prostitutes in colombia ahead of a visit by president obama. >>> a new bell rang out on wall street. the dow rose topping more than 14,000 for the first time since 2007. all three major ind dexs we -- indexes on the nasdaq. google hit an all-time of $156. and they were positive on jobs and manufacturing, and the unemployment rate notched up to 7.9%, but longer term job growth show shows a positive trend. we are just learning that country music star loretta lynn had a narrow escape from severe storms that hit thursday. her ranch suffered wind and water damage and her son says that at one point the singer had to take cover in a closet. hundreds of trees were toppled and damage is estimated at more than $100,000. so we are quite happy to report that loretta lynn is okay though, wolf. >> i am happy to hear that, and so are the viewers. lisa, thank you. >>> sheriffs vowing to quo
. >>> and mark kelly is retiring and helped to protect five presidents. he has been secret reservice director for ten years. his resignation comes after a scandal involving agents and prostitutes in colombia ahead of a visit by president obama. >>> a new bell rang out on wall street. the dow rose topping more than 14,000 for the first time since 2007. all three major ind dexs we -- indexes on the nasdaq. google hit an all-time of $156. and they were positive on jobs and...
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our first witness is mark kelly. he is a retired astronauts and u.s. navy capt. and he recently co-founded americans for responsible solutions. says an advocacy group that promotes solutions to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership. he did it with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. capt. kelly, please go ahead, sir. >> thank yo for inviting me here today. i look forward to a constructive and constructive dialogue with your committee. i want to take the opportunity to congratulate gay's friend jeff flake as you know, our family has been immeasurably affected by gun violence. gaby's gift for speech as a distant memory. she struggles to walk. she is partially blind. a year ago, she left the job she loved, serving the people of arizona. in the past two years, we have watched her determination, spirit, and intellect, per disabilities. we are not here as victims. we are speaking to you today as americans. we are a lot like many of our fellow citizens following this debate about gun violence where moderates, gaby was a republican lon
our first witness is mark kelly. he is a retired astronauts and u.s. navy capt. and he recently co-founded americans for responsible solutions. says an advocacy group that promotes solutions to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership. he did it with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. capt. kelly, please go ahead, sir. >> thank yo for inviting me here today. i look forward to a constructive and constructive dialogue with your committee. i want to take the...
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also testifying, retired navy captain mark kelly, husband of former congresswoman gabrielle giffords, who was shot two years ago in tucson. the washington post as a story about how families react when local public schools closed. a group of activists a closing schools most of text poor and minority students. -- most effects poor. we would like to hear from you. here are the numbers to call -- you can also find us online. send us a tweet. wheat can share that on the air. you can join the conversation on facebook by looking for c-span .r e-mail us in the headline in the washington post this morning -- what you think's? is closing public schools a civil rights issue? the washington post says -- other stories related to this, from "the huffington post" -- those phone numbers again -- we will start with an independent caller this morning. lou in connecticut. good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to see all public schools closed. public schools are a government monopoly, and utter failure. it would be like having a government monopoly in the automobile industry and we would all b
also testifying, retired navy captain mark kelly, husband of former congresswoman gabrielle giffords, who was shot two years ago in tucson. the washington post as a story about how families react when local public schools closed. a group of activists a closing schools most of text poor and minority students. -- most effects poor. we would like to hear from you. here are the numbers to call -- you can also find us online. send us a tweet. wheat can share that on the air. you can join the...
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her husband, mark kelly, an nra ceo wayne lapierre also testified. this hearing is just under four hours. [no audio] >> we have more than 200 people here today and hundreds more watching on our committee web cast. i expect everybody in this room to be respectful of the senators and the witnesses speaking about this very serious subject. i do not want applause for or against any position. the capitol police have been notified to remove any audience interference in an effort to have orderly conduct for that. that is a warning i give the many hearings. we will hear a lot of perspective on gun violence. i will give opening statements. but we have a former member of congress here, gaby giffords who will give a brief message and believed and captain kelly, thank you for your help in bringing your wife here. ms. giffords - >> ok. thank you for inviting me here today. this is an important conversation for our children, for our communities, for democrats and republicans. speaking is difficult but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. t
her husband, mark kelly, an nra ceo wayne lapierre also testified. this hearing is just under four hours. [no audio] >> we have more than 200 people here today and hundreds more watching on our committee web cast. i expect everybody in this room to be respectful of the senators and the witnesses speaking about this very serious subject. i do not want applause for or against any position. the capitol police have been notified to remove any audience interference in an effort to have orderly...
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i am proud to say that steve barton has made the sandy hook promise, gabby giffords and mark kelly have also. tens of thousands of americans from connecticut and across the country have made the sandy hook promise as an ally. -- as have i.. i want to ask mr. la irerre if -- mr. lapierre, will you make the promise? >> we have advocated putting our security in the schools, fixing the mental health system, computerizing the records of those mentally adjudicated. i would hope we could convince some of these companies -- by mdot talking about the first amendment -- to stop putting out the violent video games and finally, we need to enforce the reasonable gun laws on but books that the nra supports. >> can i take that as a yes? >> yes, that is a yes. we have 11,000 policemen -- >> can i invite and urge you to advocate the responsible gun owners and i thank them for being responsible gun owners, also joined in the sense of promise? -- the sandy hook promised? >> there is not a law-abiding firearms owner across the united states that was not torn to pieces by what happened in sandy ". they just
i am proud to say that steve barton has made the sandy hook promise, gabby giffords and mark kelly have also. tens of thousands of americans from connecticut and across the country have made the sandy hook promise as an ally. -- as have i.. i want to ask mr. la irerre if -- mr. lapierre, will you make the promise? >> we have advocated putting our security in the schools, fixing the mental health system, computerizing the records of those mentally adjudicated. i would hope we could...
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say if the guy that mark kelly talked about, he was a hair's breadth from shooting an innocent person. the fact is the guy held both of those people on the ground, the assailant and the innocent person, and kept him from reloading the glock with another 33-round clip. did that make a difference? host: diane is in julian, california, democrat. caller: how are you? i did not hear your question? host: we have been asking have your views changed? caller: the question is, it has strengthened my views on gun control. we know that the president is traveling to minnesota today, where they do have. i do not know all the laws in minnesota. i do have relatives there. the president's agenda is to strengthen the background checks, also, a ban on assault weapons, and improve the mental health care system. i have been in law enforcement many years. the men i have worked around, some have never had to use their service revolvers. we are in a different culture now, a different behavior, a different lifetime. i've been around where there have been gang members, hell's angels, you name it, we have it in
say if the guy that mark kelly talked about, he was a hair's breadth from shooting an innocent person. the fact is the guy held both of those people on the ground, the assailant and the innocent person, and kept him from reloading the glock with another 33-round clip. did that make a difference? host: diane is in julian, california, democrat. caller: how are you? i did not hear your question? host: we have been asking have your views changed? caller: the question is, it has strengthened my...
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mark kelly yesterday. >> i'm a strong supporter of the second amendment as anybody on this panel. my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> stephanie: the "washington post" did a piece perhaps the most important moment in yesterday's senate hearings when mark kelly directly confronted wayne lapierre over the shooting of his wife and another one involving dick durbin. lapierres argument was completely unmasked. he repeatedly voiced the talking point there is no need to expand the background system because criminals don't cooperate. kelly said he said his plan was to assassinate my wife. but because of the gaps in the mental health system those -- we would have likely failed a background check. if we require private sellers to complete a background check and we get those records into the system we will prevent these kinds of crimes. good for him. mark kelley again yesterday. >> he did not have access to a high capacity magazine and the same thing happened christina tailor green would be alive today.
mark kelly yesterday. >> i'm a strong supporter of the second amendment as anybody on this panel. my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> stephanie: the "washington post" did a piece perhaps the most important moment in yesterday's senate hearings when mark kelly directly confronted wayne lapierre over the shooting of his wife and another one involving dick durbin. lapierres argument was...
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her husband mark kelly by her side. giffords says violence is a big problem. too many children are dying and while speaking is difficult forever her, she just has to tell congress, do something. >> it will be hard. but the time is now! you must act. be bold, be courageous americans are counting on you. thank you. >> she is so inspirational. kelly testified as well saying he and his wife both are gun owners and believe wholly and completely in the second amendment but that does not extend a terrorist to criminals and the mentally ill. just as giffords and kelly are speaking out, "the chicago tribune" reporting this morning that a high school sophomore who participated in the president's inaugural events just last week has been shot and killed. the 15-year-old was at a park after school on the south side of chicago yesterday when someone jumped a fence and opened fire on a group of teenagers who were gathered together under a canopy to avoid the rain. "the tribune" reports the park is known for gang activity and so far, no one who was on the scene is cooperating
her husband mark kelly by her side. giffords says violence is a big problem. too many children are dying and while speaking is difficult forever her, she just has to tell congress, do something. >> it will be hard. but the time is now! you must act. be bold, be courageous americans are counting on you. thank you. >> she is so inspirational. kelly testified as well saying he and his wife both are gun owners and believe wholly and completely in the second amendment but that does not...
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nra ceo wayne lapiere and mark kelly and giffords herself could make a surprise appearance. the couple launched their gun control advocacy group americans for responsible solutions earlier this morningnth and visited newtown connecticut following the mass shooting. today's hearing is expected to be highly incendiary. some of the most staunchly divided lawmakers. and ted cruz and john cornyn of supporters of second amendment rights. a new bill is gaining contraction on the hill. a bi-partisan group of senators including tom co burning, mark kirk joe shoechumer are working on a proposal to strengthen the enforcement of background checks. this does have a potential to break some of the gridlock. coburn said need to keep guns out of the hands of those who pose a danger to themselves and others. and to draft a bill gun rights supporters can get behind. more bill press is up after the break. stay with us. [ music ] these talking points, that the right have, about the "heavy hand of government" ... i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really? you're going to lay p
nra ceo wayne lapiere and mark kelly and giffords herself could make a surprise appearance. the couple launched their gun control advocacy group americans for responsible solutions earlier this morningnth and visited newtown connecticut following the mass shooting. today's hearing is expected to be highly incendiary. some of the most staunchly divided lawmakers. and ted cruz and john cornyn of supporters of second amendment rights. a new bill is gaining contraction on the hill. a bi-partisan...
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in fact her husband mark kelly broke the news of today's gunfire in phoenix to everybody at that hearing. the national rifle association's executive vice president wane lap peer also testified there. we will hear from both sides coming up inside fox report. first though a u.s. senator denies any role in a case involving hookers, a private plane, and a wealthy eye doctor. fbi agents raided that doctor's clinic last night in south florida. sea long-time friend and donor to the democratic senator bob menendez of new jersey. he is the chairman of a powerful foreign relations committee. it's still not clear whether the raid involved the senator but it would not be the first time the two men have been linked. back in november, the conservative web site the daily caller interviewed prostitutes who said the senator paid them for sex in the dominican republic. the article claimed the senator flew to that country on the doctor's private jet. late today the senator's office acknowledged that he has traveled on that jet, but says that he paid for the trips properly. his office released a statement t
in fact her husband mark kelly broke the news of today's gunfire in phoenix to everybody at that hearing. the national rifle association's executive vice president wane lap peer also testified there. we will hear from both sides coming up inside fox report. first though a u.s. senator denies any role in a case involving hookers, a private plane, and a wealthy eye doctor. fbi agents raided that doctor's clinic last night in south florida. sea long-time friend and donor to the democratic senator...
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mark kelly gabby gifford's husband will introduce the bill to allow all school vs. an armed presence on campus. it could be a resource office or staffer who goes through the same training. >> a look at whose talking former secretary of state colon powell made the news when he was at the republican party. bill o'reilly wanted to find out on "the factor." >> this is a rude question. i am sorry to have to ask it. you ready? this is the scuttlebutt in washington on the republican side. your angry with the republicans a major look back at the weapons of mass destruction deal burg the e during the iraq war. i don't believe that's what's motivating you. i think you are a severe g-- si guy. this is a round that cheney and these guys didn't like that. no use for cheney no use for the war. that is a bunch of nonsense. >> i took the information we all had from the intelligence committee and when i went to the u.n. it was with the assurance of the cia the information i had was correct. mr. cheney used the information, mr. president did all of the commanders. the congress voted
mark kelly gabby gifford's husband will introduce the bill to allow all school vs. an armed presence on campus. it could be a resource office or staffer who goes through the same training. >> a look at whose talking former secretary of state colon powell made the news when he was at the republican party. bill o'reilly wanted to find out on "the factor." >> this is a rude question. i am sorry to have to ask it. you ready? this is the scuttlebutt in washington on the...
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you heard mark kelly the husband of gabby gifford today suggesting the background check system was too weak on the shooter. gabby gifford herself appealed the law americas to get something that says look it's hard for me to speak but i will give you a brief portion of what she had to say. >> it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you. a oo her husband said, britt, that 33 bullets were fired in 32 minutes, 33 people were hit. it was a hand gun. it was a semiautomatic hand gun but it had high capacity magazine. he would point to that situation as something that should change and would change under diane fine stein's legislation reducing magazine rounds to 10. >> maybe something like that could pass. it is still a tough sell in a lot of parts of the country. what tends to happen. you see an event like newtown tremendous imp to etus to this to restrict guns, firearms, then you see testimony of someone like gabby giffords. remarkable she is even there. she looks great. she has trouble speaking and it touches you. they give polit
you heard mark kelly the husband of gabby gifford today suggesting the background check system was too weak on the shooter. gabby gifford herself appealed the law americas to get something that says look it's hard for me to speak but i will give you a brief portion of what she had to say. >> it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you. a oo her husband said, britt, that 33 bullets were fired in 32 minutes, 33 people were hit....
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kelly. he told the panel cushing gun violence is a complex problem. but he says that is no excuse for inaction. >> when dangerous people get dangerous guns we are all the more vulnerable. dangerous people with weapons specifically designed to inflict maximum lethality upon others have turned every single corner of our society into places of carnage and gross human loss. jon: our next guest is the committee's ranking republican. he agrees we need some common sense reform but warns of the need to proceed with caution. >> we should not rush to pass legislation that will not reduce mass killings. banning guns based on their appearance does not make sense. the 1994 assault weapons bandied not stop columbine. the justice department found the ban ineffective. scholars have indicated that refining or expanding such legislation will not cut gun violence. jon: iowa senator chuck grassley joins us now live. senator, of the testimony you've heard so far today, what has had the most impact on you? >> wel
kelly. he told the panel cushing gun violence is a complex problem. but he says that is no excuse for inaction. >> when dangerous people get dangerous guns we are all the more vulnerable. dangerous people with weapons specifically designed to inflict maximum lethality upon others have turned every single corner of our society into places of carnage and gross human loss. jon: our next guest is the committee's ranking republican. he agrees we need some common sense reform but warns of the...
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former congresswoman gabrielle giffords and her husband captain mark kelly testified about the man who shot his wife in the head three years ago. >> the killer in the tucson shooting suffered from severe mental illness, but even after being deemed unqualified for service in the army an explulsion from pima community college he was never reported to mental health authorities. on november 30th of 2010 he walked into a sporting good store, passed a background check, and walked out with a semi automatic handgun. martha: boy, this is so central to the issue at hand right now, and is not getting the attention that it perhaps deserves. i'm joined by jonah goldberg editor at large for the national review, he's also a fox news contributor. and dr. keith ablow, a forensic psychiatrist. gentlemen, welcome. the fact that there is no intervention, that people are not reported to mental health, you know, administrators who could make some kind of judgment, perhaps, or enforce some kind of treatment is really none of these situations. if you go one by one would have happened if the gun didn't find it
former congresswoman gabrielle giffords and her husband captain mark kelly testified about the man who shot his wife in the head three years ago. >> the killer in the tucson shooting suffered from severe mental illness, but even after being deemed unqualified for service in the army an explulsion from pima community college he was never reported to mental health authorities. on november 30th of 2010 he walked into a sporting good store, passed a background check, and walked out with a...
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>>steve: mark kelly says he and his wife are gun owners who have no plans to give up their weapons. even though they did think about joining the n.r.a. so can there be a compromise? joining us is fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano. that's the question. can you adjust the laws as they are without changing the constitution? >> the people who support the second amendment, of which i am one, believe that an adjustment here, a tweaking there will open up the door way to more adjustments in the future and ultimately the government will be able to choose who carries guns. and one of the things that has kept the country free is fear in the back of the mind of someone who might try to become a tyrant that way out there are a lot of people who have the fire power to prevent tyranny here. so that's one argument. the other argument underlying the second amendment is that the decision to use a weapon to protect your life, your liberty, your children, your property is an individual decision and not a government decision. because it's an aspect of self-defense. and that's an
>>steve: mark kelly says he and his wife are gun owners who have no plans to give up their weapons. even though they did think about joining the n.r.a. so can there be a compromise? joining us is fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano. that's the question. can you adjust the laws as they are without changing the constitution? >> the people who support the second amendment, of which i am one, believe that an adjustment here, a tweaking there will open up the door...
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on the other side, mark kelly, the husband of former congresswoman gabrielle giffords will thereby to support new gun control rules. and we hear now that giffords herself may speak at the beginning of that hearing. >>> developing story out of alabama. police trying to negotiate with a gunman who is holding a six-year-old boy hostage in an underground bunker. it all started at 4:00 p.m. yesterday in midland city. the 65-year-old suspect boarded a school bus, shot the driver, and grabbed a boy. >> he started telling him he needed a kid because something about the law coming after him. then he shot the bus driver and the driver's foot was on the gas and we went backwards and everybody started screaming and then the bus driver was still there and we just all got off the bus and went to a neighbor's house. >> gretchen: unfortunately the bus driver did die. swat team members still on the scene of that house. they've been communicating with the gunman. we're told the child needs medication and the suspect has allowed police to provide it. >>> check out this brand-new high-tech cargo airship
on the other side, mark kelly, the husband of former congresswoman gabrielle giffords will thereby to support new gun control rules. and we hear now that giffords herself may speak at the beginning of that hearing. >>> developing story out of alabama. police trying to negotiate with a gunman who is holding a six-year-old boy hostage in an underground bunker. it all started at 4:00 p.m. yesterday in midland city. the 65-year-old suspect boarded a school bus, shot the driver, and grabbed...
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. >> reporter: and with that, giffords left, leaving her husband, mark kelly, to take on the national rifle association's wayne lapierre. kelly argued for better background checks for all gun sales. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> my problem with background checks is you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> reporter: and kelly said if the man who shot his wife had been limited to an ammunition clip with just ten bullets, a little girl killed that day might still be alive today. >> the first bullet went into gabby's head. bullet number 13 went into a 9-year-old girl named christina taylor green. >> reporter: lapierre said that new gun laws would only punish those who don't break the law. >> law-abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of vie violent or deranged criminals. >> reporter: when it was over, kelly went over to shake lapierre's hand. the two had only agreed on one thing -- the need for stronger measures to keep guns out of the
. >> reporter: and with that, giffords left, leaving her husband, mark kelly, to take on the national rifle association's wayne lapierre. kelly argued for better background checks for all gun sales. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> my problem with background checks is you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> reporter: and kelly said if...
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gabby gifford's husband, mark kelly, is also expected to testify at the hearing. >>> in trenton, new jersey, authorities are touting the haul of weapons now off the streets thanks to a gun buyback program, bringing in 2600 hand guns. someone even turned in a rocket launcher. the state paid out $324,000 for the weapons, no questions asked. >>> a federal court is upholding san francisco's new nudity ban, so keep it under wraps. a judge ruled the ordinance does not violate first amendment rights. activists challenged the rule arguing the right to strip down is a freedom of expression. the ban covers public areas across san francisco and goes into effect friday. >>> a memento from mickey mantle's baseball career. a special ring has been found. just 536 so-called career rings were made, one for each of his home runs. the one in question belonged to his youngest son and it was stolen from his home in texas in 2007 and resurfaced at a pawnshop in flint, michigan. an appraiser figured it was stolen. the police followed a trail to a guy already in custody for stealing another valuable from ma
gabby gifford's husband, mark kelly, is also expected to testify at the hearing. >>> in trenton, new jersey, authorities are touting the haul of weapons now off the streets thanks to a gun buyback program, bringing in 2600 hand guns. someone even turned in a rocket launcher. the state paid out $324,000 for the weapons, no questions asked. >>> a federal court is upholding san francisco's new nudity ban, so keep it under wraps. a judge ruled the ordinance does not violate first...
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the former arizona congresswoman helped to the witness table by her husband, mark kelly. gifford spoke just 80 words during her time at the mike. she said too many children are dying because of gun violence. and she called on lawmakers to do something. >> it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> after that, kelly argued for better background checks for gun buyers. meanwhile, the head of the nra, waip la pie wayne lapierre, was there as well. he said criminals would not be impacted by them because they do not undergo background checks. after the hearing, kelly and lapierre shook hands. >> strong disagreements. good to see they did shake hands. we disagree. we did so cordially and respectfully. >> what is the answer? what is the nra putting forth as the answer? >> security in schools, armed guards at their schools. that's their answer. the famous quote. the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. that is their stance. more guns, arm everybody. >> what about all the loopholes? gun sh
the former arizona congresswoman helped to the witness table by her husband, mark kelly. gifford spoke just 80 words during her time at the mike. she said too many children are dying because of gun violence. and she called on lawmakers to do something. >> it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> after that, kelly argued for better background checks for gun buyers. meanwhile, the head of the nra, waip la pie wayne...
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among the witnesses testifying are wayne lapierre of the nra and captain mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords, a victim of gun violence. and is expected to speak sass well. >>> new orleans is beefing up security ahead of sunday's big game. 1300 federal agents and 3600 extra state troopers have been added. today, nfl officials will hold a news conference with homeland security secretary janet napolitano. and happy birthday to marcus mumford of mumford and sons. he tushs 26 today. old man. >>> all day long you can stay on top of the very latest developments on those stories and the best political analysis on msnbc. and tonight, be sure to watch "nbc nightly news" with brian williams. >>> and, finally, here's a look at what's coming up later this morning on the "today" show. microsoft founder bill gates opens up about his charity, family and the future. and liza minnelli and cast of cabaret reunite to celebrate the film's 40th anniversary. >>> now keep it on this channel for continuing local news, sports and more. i'm richard lui along with bill karins. thanks for watching "early today.
among the witnesses testifying are wayne lapierre of the nra and captain mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords, a victim of gun violence. and is expected to speak sass well. >>> new orleans is beefing up security ahead of sunday's big game. 1300 federal agents and 3600 extra state troopers have been added. today, nfl officials will hold a news conference with homeland security secretary janet napolitano. and happy birthday to marcus mumford of mumford and sons. he tushs 26 today....
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. >> at the same hearing giffords' husband mark kelly pushed forward requiring background checks, but wayne lapierre of the national rifle association said criminals never submit to them. >> we're going to make all the law-abiding people go through the system and then we're not going to prosecute any of the bad guys if we do catch one, and none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> requiring private sellers to require a background check before they transfer a gun is -- i mean for us, i can't think of something that would make our country safer than doing just that. >> during his testimony kelly made reference to another shooting in arizona. a gunman opened fire at a phoenix office yesterday. one person was killed. two others were wounded. and the gunman is on the run. >>> city officials in newtown, connecticut, where 26 people were shot dead at an elementary school are calling for tougher gun control measures. hundreds attended a hearing last night and randall pinkston reports. >> jesse was 6 years old. >> reporter: scarlet lewis at the site of a picture of her son jesse. he was
. >> at the same hearing giffords' husband mark kelly pushed forward requiring background checks, but wayne lapierre of the national rifle association said criminals never submit to them. >> we're going to make all the law-abiding people go through the system and then we're not going to prosecute any of the bad guys if we do catch one, and none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> requiring private sellers to require a background check before they transfer a gun is -- i...
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on the other side of the debate astronaut mark kelly, whose wife former congresswoman gabrielle giffords was badly injured in the tucson shooting in 2011. gun owner himself, kelly will argue today that assault weapons like the one that was used to wound his wife and kill six others don't belong on the streets. the politics of gun safety are complicated on capitol hill. even some of the most liberal senators are supporters of gun rights, including senator patrick leahy of vermont, who will be chairing thood's inging today's hearing. harry reid was noncommittal when asked of what he thought was an assault weapons ban introduced by his colleague, dianne feinstein. >> she believes in it fervently and i admire her for that. i'll take a look at that. >> reporter: any moves to restrict gun ownership will be met with fierce opposition from the right. >> gun violence is not a disease, and lawful gun ownership is not a disease. it is a constitutionally protected individual right. >> reporter: gun laws in the district of columbia are pretty strict but a pair of republican senators who are on the co
on the other side of the debate astronaut mark kelly, whose wife former congresswoman gabrielle giffords was badly injured in the tucson shooting in 2011. gun owner himself, kelly will argue today that assault weapons like the one that was used to wound his wife and kill six others don't belong on the streets. the politics of gun safety are complicated on capitol hill. even some of the most liberal senators are supporters of gun rights, including senator patrick leahy of vermont, who will be...